All, Some, or What?
It is no secret that I am a Five-Point Calvinist. Just last week I posted that I hold to all five points that the Synod of Dort put forth. But I redefined them because the imagery that the TULIP ancronymn carries is very archaic. So I put them in more modern terms while trying to keep the intent of the the Synod in the five points. There is one text that is very much a problem to Limited Atonement, or Particular/Definite Atonement. That is 1 John 2:1-2
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My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
This verse is taken to mean by non-Calvinists to mean that the cross atones for all the sin of the whole world. And I definitely see where they are coming from in that interpretation. I can see it and as a Calvinist, it presents a problem. I have been given two ways to deal with 1 John 2:2
. First, it must be construed to mean something like that found in John 11:52
, “and not for the nation only, but also to gather into one the children of God who are scattered abroad.” Thus the “world” in 1 John 2:2
is the same as “the children of God who are scattered abroad.” And it works. It does. But more so I personally feel that this text, like John 3:16
, speaks of the sufficiency and the efficiency of the Cross. In other words the cross has the ability to atone for the sins of the whole world but that does not mean that it does atone for the sins of the whole world.
I raise this objection because of that word “propitiation.” Propitiation is the satisfying of divine anger and wrath by a blood sacrifice. God’s wrath and anger are burning against us in our sin. Therefore Christ came to this earth and died upon the cross to take up the wrath of God upon himself. With him being a perfect being, he was the perfect sacrifice and thus satisfied the wrath of God.
Now those who are opposed to Calvinism say see, all our sins have been atoned for. All of the sins for everyone who has lived upon this earth (Feel free to correct me if I am misconstruing you). All a person now needs to do is just believe and live the life that God commands. That’s it. In some ways I like that but there arises a serious problem. Should we construe unbelief as sin? If we do then did the cross cover our unbelief or all of our sins but our unbelief in the gospel and therefore all who do not believe are going to hell? The reason I bring this up is because if unbelief is sin and Christ’s death atoned for all sin, then every one should get to heave because the atonement covers all sin and that has to include the sin of unbelief. Or it is said that Christ’s death atoned for all the sin of the world except unbelief. Then the sufficiency of the cross is limited and cannot cover all sin. This is a very serious theological problem!
Think of it like this: Christ died for all the sins of all men (universalism); Christ died for some of the sins of all men (mainly Arminianism); Christ died for all of the sins of some men (Calvinism); or Christ died for some sins of some men (which I don’t think anyone would hold to, I don’t know).
This comes across very philosophical, more so than I like to do. But it is very important to understand that in Calvinism, the cross is sufficient for every sin. In Calvinism the cross fully atones for whom it was meant. My question to the non-Calvinist is how do they maintain the sufficiency of the cross to atone for all sin for all men? At some point the nature of the cross to atone for all sin is contradicted. I am curious how this works.
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Consider this view:
Christ died for all sins of all time. He offers this as a gift to all of humankind. Those that take him up on the offer actualize the gift whereas those that decline it do not. New sins do not push one out of this grace, only a turning away from God.
Where would that one fit in?
I’m not sure I’m understanding your position correctly. Could you elaborate for me? It sounds like your saying it is sufficient for the whole world but it isn’t. Are you saying that Christ doesn’t actually atone for sins until you come to faith or…I don’t know I need for info on your view.
It is sufficient for the sins of the world, but in order for members of the world to partake in the gift, they have to put faith in Christ.
Imagine my dad buying his kids all new cars. The gift is there and offered, but the kids have to accept the gift in order to actually have the car.
So are you saying it atones for all sins only if they come to Christ by faith? Are you saying something akin to my definition of Limited Atonement on previous post?
Christ embodied God, took on sin, died and rose again for the sins of the whole world. Not everyone chooses to believe in Christ and live in the humble Kingdom of the Beloved Son.(Col 1:13
) Jesus doesn’t force the responsibilities, sacrfices or rewards of the kingdom on anyone. If they reject him, they are discarded as rubblish. I don’t know how you spell that with a TULIP, but I think it’s that simple.
I am saying that all sins (of each person throughout all time) are atoned for.
In my view all a human needs to do to “activate” or claim their forgiveness is to have faith in Jesus (or however you want to say it).
which I think is very close to the view that you outlined.
I get what you are saying, I think. Is it like having a debit card. You have the card but doesn’t do you anything until you have activated it?
It isn’t quite what I have outlined. The cross doesn’t actually atone for sin until one has come to faith in Jesus. We have no atonement for sin until faith. The cross saves only those who have faith. There isn’t anyone the cross cannot save. They have to meet the stipulation that God has laid down to be atoned for: faith in the work of Jesus.
This is also why I hold to unconditional election. Faith is a condition. We must do something to be justified and therefore salvation is no longer a gift to be recieved but a gift that is earned. We cannot earn salvation. Therefore I believe that the Bible teaches that God grants faith to the elect so that they cannot say that they believed and were saved as if they had something to boast about.