Comments on: Then I Guess I Am Pt. 1

By: Hank

Hank — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:48:25 +0000

JR,

I think this illustrates how wide the gap is between the Complementarian and Egalitarian. When I read the post I just don’t see where I have said that the girl/woman is less capable. Capability was not in my mind. Yet when you read it you see it.

I’m not sure I understand exactly what you mean by “secular dating.” I assume you mean dating in the way that those outside the church mean. If true, then I really am saying that I would raise my children that this is not a good way to go about finding their spouses (spice? hehehe–bad joke I know).

Thank you for pointing out the need to address how I would train my sons to approach this issue. Sons weren’t even in my mind because I am not going to marry a boy. Women and their fathers were what I was thinking about.

By: jr.

jr. — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:58:42 +0000

what is not patriarchal about your post is loving your (future) daughter (or little sister, for that matter).

but why just your daughter? why not also your sons? why don’t you have the same rigorous dating standards for them?

the way you’ve set up your case, women are less capable than men of navigating the waters of secular dating, and so they need a man to protect them.

THAT is patriarch, and i think it’s false. I think everyone needs to be more careful, and I agree that contemporary society is far from ideal, but I don’t believe this is because we’ve fallen from patriarchy. I think it has a lot more to do with our (mis)understanding of sexuality and its role in our world.

By: Hank

Hank — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:13:44 +0000

I am glad to see that Egal’s and Comp’s are showing an equal “happiness rating” (for lack of a better term). I think I was railing against contemporary dating models more than engaging in the comp vs egal debate. I really think that if father’s would take a more active role in their daughter’s choosing a mate to spend the rest of her life with so that he can make sure that there is someone there who loves her, not just wants to be married. People outside of Christianity would view that as “patriarchal” and old school and whatever term one can say to show that this is something done in the past. But seriously, what guy knows a young single woman better than her own father? If he is a godly father then there shouldn’t be another man who does…until she is given in marriage.

Oh and bye they way, the line, “I want to skip marriage and go straight to being a daddy” didn’t work. I have already done that (sike!)

By: tom

tom — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:35:38 +0000

Oh yeah, I heard came across some statistics the other day – Egalitarian families and Complimentarian families demonstrate the same level of happiness. Neither one is happier or more more prone to divorce than the other. Interesting, huh? I wish there were a side that was clearly more ‘happy’ or ‘successful’, but oh well…I guess sociology can’t answer this question for us.

Cheers.

By: tom

tom — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:33:26 +0000

You should use this as a pick up line: “Honestly…I’d like to skip the whole wedding and engagement and go straight to being a daddy.”

That might get you a few dates…